Published Jan 29, 2015
Lockett discusses football life after K-State
D. Scott Fritchen
GoPowercat.com Assistant Editor
Tyler Lockett apparently had quite the week leading up to the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala. The Consensus All-American and all-time leader in all of the major receiving categories at Kansas State put on a display daily and reportedly turned the heads of some NFL personnel and NFL Draft experts.
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Lockett measured in at 5-foot-9 and 181 pounds, but as he's said so many times, it's difficult to measure heart. And Lockett assuredly has plenty of heart. Along with some elite ability that he hopes will help him to separate from a talented pool of wide receiver prospects, as he now continues preparations for the NFL Scouting Combine on Feb. 18-21 in Indianapolis.
Lockett touched on a variety of topics during this in-depth Q&A with GoPowercat.com:
Can you give us a sense about where you're currently living and training, and coming off the Senior Bowl week, can you describe the daily grind and the workouts that are involved, as you now prepare for the NFL Combine coming up in a few weeks in February?
LOCKETT: "I'm in Orange County, California, and I've been here for about three weeks now. I ended up signing with Athletes First, so I'm training with Athletes First and our training place is Proactive, which is under Athletes First. The best thing about the facility that I'm at is that it's located right above our apartments, so I just take an elevator to the roof, where we have our workout equipment and cold tub. Our trainers are on the rooftop so I don't have to worry about a 20-minute drive or anything like that. When we train on the football field, it's only about five minutes away.
"What I'm doing right now is working on explosiveness, which translates to the 40, and shuttles, and basically everything I do. Yesterday, I was running with 20 pounds to strengthen my core. With the Senior Bowl finished it's all about preparing for the Combine now. I've been running 10 spits and 20 splits, but we haven't run 40s yet. We're working on doing a lot of reps on the bench and are working up to all the reps at 225 pounds. I'm about a week and a half away from really working on the 40 and shuttles, and all of that stuff just to get a preliminary read, so we know what to expect when I go to the Combine."
Take me back to the Senior Bowl. How beneficial was that experience to you?
LOCKETT: "It was really beneficial because I was able to see where I was at and I was able to go against some of the guys that I went against when we played them at Kansas State. I got to go against the Miami cornerback my sophomore year and I've gone against Kevin White before, so there were a lot of defensive backs that I'd been able to go against. The Senior Bowl allowed me to really see where I'm at and I was able to see the other receivers, and some of them that are in front of me. I was able to just work and get better. I was able to work under (Jacksonville Jaguars) wide receivers coach Jerry Sullivan (was also on the K-State coaching staff in 1971-72), who actually coached Andre Coleman when he played for the San Diego Chargers, so a lot of the things that Coach Sullivan taught I already knew and had already learned because Coach Coleman taught us the same things."
Wow, what a small world. That said, obviously, Andre Coleman was a special player with the Chargers and now is making a name as wide receivers coach at Kansas State. Looking back, how much do you believe Coleman and his knowledge as a former NFL player helped to prepare you for the NFL level?
LOCKETT: "The biggest thing that I was able to learn from Coach Coleman was being able to see exactly what it takes to be able to be a great football player. Being at the Senior Bowl and now working out here, you see a lot of great athletes. The thing that Coach Sullivan with the Jaguars talked about was the mental side of the game because everybody knows that each of these players heading to the NFL can bring that physical part, they can go out there and perform, but a lot of people don't have the mental and technique part of the game down. That's what a lot of the NFL coaches focused on.
"The fact that I had Coach Coleman already teaching that to me in the two years that we were together made it a lot easier for me. I understood exactly what a lot of the NFL coaches were saying to us at the Senior Bowl. It wasn't like I had to fit that aspect into my game because that aspect was already engrained in my game. It was something I already knew. Coach Coleman prepared me to be able to see what the next level is going to be like with the mental side and technique, so since I already knew that, I was able to work on some of the things that could make me even better as far as creating more separation."
Throughout the years, whether it's been Ben Leber, Terence Newman, and on and on, they've said that they immediately noticed that Kansas State helped to prepare them for the NFL perhaps better than many other programs across the country. Did you get a feeling at the Senior Bowl that perhaps you were ahead of the curve in that respect?
LOCKETT: "Yes, and another thing that helps us out is the fact that we probably practice a lot longer than a lot of these teams. At the Senior Bowl, we only practiced for an hour and 30 minutes. The first day, I was like, 'What in the world? We'd still be practicing right now if we were at Kansas State.' A lot of players said that they'd practice for an hour and a half or two hours at their schools. The fact that we practiced longer and focused on repetition, that prepares us for the physical aspect of it. You're so used to long practices, and now it's going to be an hour and 30-minute long practices, so you're not going to have so much wear on your body, and you're transitioning to a place where everything is a lot easier while some other people are transitioning to a place where it's a lot harder.
"Knowing what we did at Kansas State is a lot harder and weighs harder on your body than in the NFL, it makes it a lot easier to transition in because we've already been to a place where it was harder and more difficult in maintaining your body. Now they talk here about maintaining your body and keeping your body fresh. Just knowing the game and being on a team where we don't just run straight sprints, but where we run routes and get open, read coverages and sit in holes, and stuff like that it really helps us out. A lot of teams that run the spread offense, they might not have that many plays and they might not have had that many routes, so they have to learn all of this type of stuff now, whereas we were already learning it for the past two years."
How long are the practices at Kansas State?
LOCKETT: "Oh, like two hours and 47 minutes. That's what it read on the sheet every single day."
Your dad mentioned to me heading toward the bowl game that he'd spoken with you about Tavon Austin, Brandin Cooks, Percy Harvin -- the Wes Welker type of guy, and to aspire to be that type of top slot receiver guy, and that kickoff return, and punt-return guy in the NFL. What do you think about those kinds of comparisons?
LOCKETT: "My dad would always talk to me about it and he said every year there's always that exception. Last year it was Odell Beckham. He told me a team might take a smaller guy in the first round or second round just because that player can do all three. Tavon can play running back, receiver and do returns, so you're getting a lot from him. Odell Beckham did returns and was great at receiver, and he was just a pure athlete, so he was able to go. Brandin Cooks was a returner and also a great receiver. My dad said going into this year for me to put myself into a position where I can show everybody what I can do when I have the ball in my hands. That way, teams can look at me like one of those guys, because all you need to do is get the ball in their hands. That's what he'd talk with me about. He said there aren't too many players at my size, and I was already in a great position because I was already known for special teams and was good at receiver my junior year, so what I needed to do was excel at receiver and at punt returns, and it'd put me into a position where my value of what I bring is more than somebody who just plays receiver."
From the business side, how many NFL teams did you speak with during the Senior Bowl week, and what types of questions did they ask, and how do you feel like you were received?
LOCKETT: "I talked to 26 to 28 teams and a lot of the questions they asked was basically about my family and how I grew up, and what I believe I bring to the table, my biggest assets, and my biggest weaknesses. Sometimes, they'd talk to me about coverages, they'd ask what my favorite play was in college, what coverages I ran it against, what happens if a guy is playing me outside shading on a post route and how I'm going to run it, or if it's an inside shade how am I going to run it. It was a lot of questions like that and more like questionnaire type of stuff. Some people just asked questions just to see where I was at mentally. Some people gave me little trivia tests to see how well I can think and solve problems. I think I did a great job. I wasn't too worried about that part, so it was easy for me to talk to them because I felt like I'm well prepared to answer any of the questions that they asked."
So what was your favorite play in college?
LOCKETT: "I told them it was the double-post. Anytime I ran a post, I had a lot of ways to run it, and so I was able to run the post at any time just because of the way some teams guarded me, and they'd favor the outside, so it'd be easier to get inside. Another coach, I told him another route was when we'd run something on one side and I'd be on the backside, and we'd run that a lot, and you can run that against any coverage. I like running the 10-and-in and the post routes. That 10-and-in was the final play (against UCLA)."
Some of the Vines of your catches during Senior Bowl week became a big hit among a lot of Kansas State fans. Those plays weren't necessarily a surprise to many people that watched your career but how did those types of plays maybe re-emphasize to NFL personnel and experts the ability that you bring to the table? Could you hear any ewes and ahhs, and do you feel like you turned some heads?
LOCKETT: "Yeah, I mean, a lot of people were shocked, but I wasn't shocked at all, and I don't think a lot of people at Kansas State were shocked. They basically saw what I was able to do for the past two years. The only difference is a lot of people didn't think I was fast, but because we practiced a lot and ran so much, we were always kind of on half a tank in the games. For me to actually be fresh to where my legs aren't hurting or anything like that, I'm able to be 100 percent when I'm running, and I don't have to worry about 'Oh, my leg is hurting so it's hard for me to run, and I don't have any gas in the tank.' I didn't have to worry about any of that kind of stuff, so I was playing top notch.
"When I was going against a lot of the defensive backs there, I just stuck to everything that I did, and at the same time, I was just able to do what I've been doing for the past two years. I don't know if people were shocked because they finally got to see it in person or what. For me, it's something that I always did, and it's something I'm going to keep on doing for as long as I play."
The fade route in the end zone that we saw on Vine, was that your favorite catch of the week?
LOCKETT: "Yeah, you could say either that one, or there was one we had on the first day, on a 10-yard stop against a guy outside and behind me, and I ended up jumping up and snagging it in, and a lot of people ended up saying that they really liked that catch. There were a couple of catches that I really enjoyed in which I was able to showcase a little bit of what I have to show the scouts, especially the ones that might doubt my catching, and stuff like that. I think I was able to actually show them that I'm able to catch the ball and make the tough catches."
I've got to ask you this. How weird was it running a route against the quarterback from the Auburn team (Nick Marshall switched to cornerback) that you guys faced early this past season?
LOCKETT: "The very first time I went against him, I didn't even know it was him. I think that helped me out because I didn't pay attention to who it was, and I thought it was a different player from Auburn. The whole time I thought he was playing quarterback. It didn't really hit me until somebody told me, 'Why'd you do Nick Marshall like that?' That's when it hit me that he was playing defensive back. It was one of those things where he'd played at defensive back before in his career, so it wasn't like it was his first time, or anything like that. The fact that he's a pure athlete says a lot, too."
A graphic during the Senior Bowl on the NFL Network showed you as one of the five guys on the South team that "made money" during the week. What exactly do you feel like you did that set you apart?
LOCKETT: "I just did the same thing I did at K-State. I mean, that's the main thing. You just have to be able to play the way that you're capable of playing. You're in a new environment, it's a new atmosphere, and you've got to be able to be comfortable, and do the same thing that you did, and be able to produce. And so, when I went there, I tried not to worry about any of the other receivers that might be in front of me, or anything like that. It turned out a lot of the receivers were really cool, and a lot of the players in general were really cool, so you weren't worried about individuals, and people having individual success. Everybody was really cool with each other and we all had a great time.
"The thing about me is I just focused on what I do best. The coaches just talked about getting better, and don't have your own agenda, and what you want to accomplish, but just focus on getting better, and before you know it, everything is going to come together. So that's what I did. I just tried to focus on getting better. I had no control what was going to happen, I just had to go out there and compete and be the best that I could be, and that's what I did. At the end of it, the coaches loved me, and I guess the players loved me, and whoever decides who made money, but I just did the same thing that I did at K-State."
I counted eight players from the Big 12 Conference on the Senior Bowl rosters. Who are some of the Big 12 players that stood out to you that might've helped themselves and that you especially appreciated being able to watch?
LOCKETT: "Kevin White was on my team and he won best defensive back on my team, so I know he helped himself a lot. I was able to play with Daryl Williams, the offensive lineman from Oklahoma, and I know their linebacker Geneo Grissom was playing, but I didn't get a chance to see him a whole lot. The other Big 12 players were on the other team, so I can really only speak for who was on my team, but the guys that were on my team, I think everybody did a great job, represented the Big 12 in a great way, and we were able to actually show people that Big 12 players can play with any of the top guys from other conferences."
Did you get the sense that people knew who Tyler Lockett was entering the week?
LOCKETT: "Yeah, but at the same time, I still feel like people are still overlooking me, which isn't anything new. I just had to come in and just show people what I've been doing and I think a lot of people started to see that and were like, 'Man, this kid really is good, and he's a good kid with a good head on his shoulders.' I still think people are kind of sleeping on me. And that's OK with me. I don't have to worry about getting all the hype of 'this kid is going to be great,' and 'this kid is going to this and that.' I just go back to the drawing board, and keep working, and not worry about what people are saying about me. You might hear great stuff, and then you have some people who are just critics, and they just try to find stuff about you."
I read on KCChiefs.com that you'd love to play for Kansas City Chiefs coach Andy Reid. What intrigues you most about him and the Chiefs and do you have any early favorite teams?
LOCKETT: "I told them I'd love to play for the Chiefs if they ended up giving me the opportunity to be able to play for them. My dad went there, so of course, there's history there, and Andy Reid is a great coach. He was a great coach even when he was at Philadelphia, and he's a coach that I'd love to play for. Whoever gives me an opportunity to play for them, I'll play for them because just to be able to make it to the NFL, not too many people get that opportunity. I don't really have any favorites or teams that I'd prefer to play for because I just want to play for whoever wants me. I look forward to being able to play anywhere. It doesn't matter if it's indoors, or someplace really cold, or someplace really hot. As long as I get to play that's all that matters to me."
Being in this spot that you're in right now, college is behind you and you're approaching the next level, can you describe your excitement in being in this moment?
LOCKETT: "It's really exciting to me. It's like going through a process again where you get to find out what NFL teams want you. Now it's going to be different. It's not like college anymore. I went to see the Lakers play the Wizards and saw all of these great athletes and you're watching these athletes, and it makes you think, 'Man, this is going to be me, except on the football stage.' You're going to be playing with a lot of the greatest athletes to ever walk on the football field. It's the biggest stage. There's nothing bigger than the NFL. To be able to make it here and play, and do what you've loved from the beginning, that says a lot."
You leave behind a lot of young wide receivers and teammates at Kansas State and there will be several more players joining the team as well here shortly. What would be Tyler Lockett's advice to these guys as they go about their K-State career?
LOCKETT: "My advice would just be to enjoy the process. A lot of times you have all of these things that you want to accomplish, and sometimes you get driven away when certain things happen, and you start to lose sight of it all, but you have to look at it that there's always a process to everything, and you've got to be able to do every single step in order to get to the end result of what you want to accomplish. At the same time, you have to continue to remember exactly why you're playing football. Everybody has their own reason. I think a lot of people lose sight of that when they get to college.
"Everybody wants to go to the NFL, but what college does is weed out the people who just say they want to go and the people that really want to go. I think if people really want to go, or with whatever they want to use football for, they have to remember to have that in the back of your mind with everything that you do, especially when you get tired and worn out. You don't want to be those people that get weeded out. Just enjoy the college life."
Now that it's over, exactly what was it like and what will you remember most about playing for Hall of Fame head football coach Bill Snyder?
LOCKETT: "Just the most important thing that I'm able to take away is that a lot of the things that he's taught you, you never know how much it has an effect on you until you actually leave, and until you start talking to people that are 24 or 25 years old, and you catch yourself saying 'yes, sir' and 'no, sir.' You kind of get the idea of a lot of the stuff that Coach Snyder instills in you like a father figure would. Everything he did is teach you for this day, for whenever you get to this type of position, to know how to carry yourself, to be able to know how people are looking at you, and also to be able to go out there and work hard for what you want, and not be at a place where everything is going to be given to you, but to be at a place where you can always be hungry, and you can always push yourself to the limit. You push yourself to that limit, and then go beyond that limit, and then look back and actually see how far you can go."
After the Alamo Bowl, you said you were unsure how people might remember Tyler Lockett. Now that you've had some time to digest and reflect, what do you hope you're most remembered for at Kansas State?
LOCKETT: "I think the way I want to be remembered at Kansas State is not just as a guy that broke his dad's records, or who did all of that type of stuff, but just being able to come in and play football at Kansas State, I always wanted to come in and play for God, and to be able to use football as a platform to be able to inspire people. I want to inspire people from back home and be able to use it to glorify God. A lot of people look up to you when you play football, and you can use that platform in a good way, or you can use it in a bad way. You can take advantage of women and live the fast life, which a lot of people do, but instead I wanted to represent someone greater. The biggest thing for me is that I wanted to be somebody that lived it out and not somebody that just talked about it.
"The way I want to be remembered is I want to be remembered as somebody who was motivated by God, who had a heart to play for God, and who achieved all of his accolades by just focusing on one thing. All of the other stuff will come around. People would ask me, 'What are your goals and what do you want to accomplish?' The one thing that I always had with me was just to keep God first throughout everything that happens. It wasn't about winning a Heisman, or wanting to do this or that, it was just that I wanted to prove to the world that God is real, and at the same time keep Him first throughout everything that happens. Keep Him first in going for the Campbell Trophy. Keep Him first in winning the Big 12 Special Teams Player of the Year. Keep Him first through everything. Everything else will take its place if you keep Him first through the good and the bad.
"For me to be able to focus on one thing, and to be able to accomplish everything that I was able to accomplish, and to be able to go down as Kansas State's best receiver, I want them to know the exact thing that motivated me, and that gave me the urge to be the best player that I could possibly be."